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<h3>Topic: <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey.20for.20review.html">Survey for review</a></h3>

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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey%20for%20review/near/181148798" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jasun Carr <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey.20for.20review.html#181148798">(Nov 19 2019 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>Here's a link to a copy of the survey. Please feel free to review the questions, and suggest edits/additions:<br>
<a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1fdGEynIzEUtr5JSbxw_V6g9AaIW32yHD1qNCxJaIniI/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank" title="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1fdGEynIzEUtr5JSbxw_V6g9AaIW32yHD1qNCxJaIniI/edit?usp=sharing">https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1fdGEynIzEUtr5JSbxw_V6g9AaIW32yHD1qNCxJaIniI/edit?usp=sharing</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey%20for%20review/near/181148875" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sunjay Varma <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey.20for.20review.html#181148875">(Nov 19 2019 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>Is this meant to be world editable?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey%20for%20review/near/181148888" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sunjay Varma <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey.20for.20review.html#181148888">(Nov 19 2019 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>(I can edit it and I don't know if that's on purpose)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey%20for%20review/near/181148956" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jasun Carr <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey.20for.20review.html#181148956">(Nov 19 2019 at 20:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yes - we have a master copy, and only those with the link can edit the one that's shared.<br>
We'll compare the shared one to the master for making determinations of edits.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey%20for%20review/near/181149016" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sunjay Varma <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey.20for.20review.html#181149016">(Nov 19 2019 at 20:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>Great - just wanted to be sure <span aria-label="smile" class="emoji emoji-263a" role="img" title="smile">:smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey%20for%20review/near/181149068" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey.20for.20review.html#181149068">(Nov 19 2019 at 20:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>Unfortunately, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="117350">@Sunjay Varma</span>, afaik you can't share a Google Form and have people peruse the overall structure without it being editable</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey%20for%20review/near/181154421" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey.20for.20review.html#181154421">(Nov 19 2019 at 21:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>"How would you rate your Rust expertise?"</p>
<p>The answer choices to this seem to have little to do with expertise, i.e., I would  not say I am "daily" experienced.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey%20for%20review/near/181154463" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey.20for.20review.html#181154463">(Nov 19 2019 at 21:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>Also for "How long have you been working with Rust?"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey%20for%20review/near/181154485" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey.20for.20review.html#181154485">(Nov 19 2019 at 21:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>and "If you summed the size of all Rust projects you work on, how big would it be?"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey%20for%20review/near/181154491" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey.20for.20review.html#181154491">(Nov 19 2019 at 21:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>and "How regularly do you work with Rust?"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey%20for%20review/near/181154497" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey.20for.20review.html#181154497">(Nov 19 2019 at 21:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems like something was shuffled</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey%20for%20review/near/181154654" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey.20for.20review.html#181154654">(Nov 19 2019 at 21:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>"How would you rate the difficulty of learning these concepts/topics?"</p>
<p>I am not sure which concepts this is talking about</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey%20for%20review/near/181154711" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey.20for.20review.html#181154711">(Nov 19 2019 at 21:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>This questions "If you indicated a desire for increased interoperability, which of the following languages would you want to use with Rust?" is duplicated in section 4 but not with equivalent responses</p>



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<p>"Do you currently use the 2015 or 2018 edition of Rust?"</p>
<p>Seems like we should ask "personally" or something -- I suspect I depend on 2015 code... not sure who to phrase this</p>



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<p>I would split "WebAssembly / asm.js" into two separate target platforms</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey%20for%20review/near/181155386" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey.20for.20review.html#181155386">(Nov 19 2019 at 21:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>For "Using Rust at work" I would like to add something about "size of company" -- not sure if too late, otherwise number of people using Rust not too meaningful</p>



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<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey%20for%20review/near/181155631" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey.20for.20review.html#181155631">(Nov 19 2019 at 21:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>cc <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="250246">@Jasun Carr</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey%20for%20review/near/181160175" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey.20for.20review.html#181160175">(Nov 19 2019 at 22:16)</a>:</h4>
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<p>"How would you rate the difficulty of learning these concepts/topics?"</p>
<p>I am not sure which concepts this is talking about</p>
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<p>This one looks fine for me:</p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey%20for%20review/near/181160474" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey.20for.20review.html#181160474">(Nov 19 2019 at 22:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ah, I see what you mean. Yeah, something looks wrong there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey%20for%20review/near/181188859" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey.20for.20review.html#181188859">(Nov 20 2019 at 08:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>(For the ratings, I personally would use scales from 1-5 rather than 1-10, because I personally find the additional fine-grainedness intimidating as a person filling out the survey. But if we used 1-10 in previous surveys, then never mind me.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey%20for%20review/near/181227695" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jasun Carr <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey.20for.20review.html#181227695">(Nov 20 2019 at 17:10)</a>:</h4>
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<p>Ah, I see what you mean. Yeah, something looks wrong there</p>
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<p>Yes, it looks like some edits were made to this version that swapped around questions &amp; answers - the master copy is still ok though. <br>
Making fixes to undo the damage - hopefully it's a one time thing and not ongoing maliciousness.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey%20for%20review/near/181228353" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jasun Carr <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey.20for.20review.html#181228353">(Nov 20 2019 at 17:16)</a>:</h4>
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<p>For "Using Rust at work" I would like to add something about "size of company" -- not sure if too late, otherwise number of people using Rust not too meaningful</p>
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<p>Are we interested in size of Company, or number/size of programming team?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey%20for%20review/near/181228643" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey.20for.20review.html#181228643">(Nov 20 2019 at 17:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>Either? Both? I think just a loose estimate is fine</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey%20for%20review/near/181228686" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey.20for.20review.html#181228686">(Nov 20 2019 at 17:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>like, I was thinking something like 1-100, 100-1000, 1k+ employees or something</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey%20for%20review/near/181228881" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jasun Carr <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey.20for.20review.html#181228881">(Nov 20 2019 at 17:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>I've added a rough version in - will take a look at some other workplace surveys for common size ranges (and possibly question wording) and adjust ours to match.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey%20for%20review/near/181255572" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jasun Carr <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey.20for.20review.html#181255572">(Nov 20 2019 at 22:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>Question added with common ranges:<br>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey%20for%20review/near/181256173" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jasun Carr <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey.20for.20review.html#181256173">(Nov 20 2019 at 22:18)</a>:</h4>
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<p>(For the ratings, I personally would use scales from 1-5 rather than 1-10, because I personally find the additional fine-grainedness intimidating as a person filling out the survey. But if we used 1-10 in previous surveys, then never mind me.)</p>
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<p>Comparing back to the previous year, the questions that we have with 10-pt scales were 10-pt there (I generally agree with you - and I strongly prefer questions with an odd # of options so I can sit in the middle - but we'll have to leave these for comparison purposes)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey%20for%20review/near/181320458" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jasun Carr <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/214615-t-community/rust-survey-2019/topic/Survey.20for.20review.html#181320458">(Nov 21 2019 at 16:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ok - shutting down the editable version of the survey - incorporated edits to the master as needed (and thanks all for those) and think this thing is locked.</p>



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